ガチャに○○なしってマジ！？←裏があるんじゃないのか？【海外の反応】

No 50/50? We’re so fking back

Should be industry standard by now, about time.

Today is a great fucking day

Alright, if we can play it’s gonna be great. Been playing NTE and the difference of no 50/50 is MASSIVE. Even if AP doesn’t give as many pulls, just being able to plan comfortably and that **every double 5 star will be the girl you want** is a BIG diference

I know it sounds like a niche scenario but in NTE i got double S ranks like 6 times since launch, all of these in other game would’ve been *just a guaranteed for the next banner* because of a 50/50 loss. Hope the game economy goes around skins too, both NTE and the og azur lane do this and got to say it feels much better to spend money in such games

Damn, leave some of that luck for the rest of us

Ah sorry dude i made it sound like i’m the big winner here lol, i just spent money and got some characters (Lacrimosa) maxed out so i had more chances for a lucky strike

That’s why i said that about spending money. No 50/50 means it feels like the money best spent in any gacha ever, so much more rewarding

Nah, it’s fine I’m just joking around. It’s the usual joke in gacha fandom when someone got lucky.

Bro I had to go to pity for the Zankou skin. I hope azur promilia doesn’t do any gacha skins

I really had 50/50 because they are the worst of both worlds.

Too structured to be “gambling” and too “random” to be enough for “planning”.

Either go guarantee or make it more random.

Amazing! What about weapons? (If there is anything like that)

look at pic no. 3 from here https://www.reddit.com/r/AzurPromilia/comments/1w8mv8h/some_new_content_from_cn_2/

I see, thanks a lot!

no 5050? im in

source is media report from offline CBT3 : https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/wg6YBtoWCrYOqITzq1dZ4A

yeah, that’s cool, but what is the catch?

even in NTE you have to grind hard or cough up real money in order to just get a skin, as a drawback for it non 50 50 gacha

You also have to buy skins in mihoyo gachas that have 50/50s.. And NTE gives you much more free skins than those games too (every limited character has at least 1 free through bonds, mihoyo game you get maybe 1-2 free skins a year besides MC lol). Not much of a “catch”. NTE economy feels great compared to mihoyo games.

of course NTE economy is great, i don’t doubt about it, but like I said, it is still a “catch” even if the game is generous, nothing is ever given completely for free without a price after all, a live service game has to make money somehow

that being said, no one here really answer my question at all, all i see is me being downvote for asking a question, are you guy for real?

Wait, does that mean it’s guaranteed to be the character on banner, or is it random since there’s no 50/50?

guaranteed within 90 pulls

Fuck yeah

That’s good news and all, how about the story? Did they fix it to be harem? I just watch some stream CBT it feels like any other gacha with friendship bullshit

Edit: everyone in this sub either hate harem or avoiding the question

No 50/50 is always a good idea, as long as the pity isnt 150 like in some other games ive seen. Also hope the pity carries over to next banners so that you can build it up towards the char you want. I already know my first goal is to get Metsa

Pity is 90 (80 for weapon/spirit) and it does carry over

In 2027, that’s the bare minimum for a new gacha game.

So from what i understand from the translation, the CBT3 banner system is:

No 50/50.

Limited Character banner pity is 90.

Limited Weapon banner pity is 80.

The Beginner banner pity is 30.

The Standard/Permanent banner pity is 50.

You can chose which 5 star you want to gacha for in the Standard/Permanent banner.

Personally, I think this is ok, at worst you will need 170 pull for BOTH character and weapon.
Compare to other 3d gacha game that i played, for both Character and Weapon:
WuWa: 240 pull
HSR: 340 pull
NTE: 170 pull
Arknights Endfield: 120 pull (you get about 85 single weapon pulls in return, so the weapon is guaranteed)

We don’t have the info yet but it would be nice if the pity is also carry over.

Edit: nvm, the pity seem to carry over.

Keep in mind that the economy is the only thing that matters. Every other metric is completely useless.

A gacha game could have a guarantee in 10 pulls, but you only get 2 pulls per month, and it costs $30 per pull if you decide to spend money. That sounds awful.

Or it could have a guarantee in 1,000 pulls, but you get 300 pulls a week, with a 1% chance of summoning the character per pull. This sounds good.

Expect it to be priced similarly. So $180 – $400 just to guarantee character.

Of course pull income is important.

My comment is for making clear about the gacha system only.

Not accounting for pull income, banner duration nor number of banner per patch.

Also considering Manjuu history, I think the pull economy would at least be on NTE or Wuwa level if not more generous.

Not really true. Regardless of the economy, 50/50 can create a massive gap between the lucky and unlucky. There’s always gonna be luck gaps in gachas but they’re going to be bigger and more frequent than without 50/50.

ZZZ gives a lot of free pulls. But it has 50/50s. I literally lost 11 50/50s in a row on the limited character banner. Obscene bad luck. Basically destroyed my account meta wise even compared to someone with even just average luck. Literally missing 5-10 limited characters compared to others with the same amount of pulls. Thats not okay.

No 50/50 also makes planning much easier. Of course the pull economy will be important but no 50/50 is a very good thing, it’s a promising start. I highly doubt they’re gonna shoot themselves in the foot and do no 50/50 but then give you like no pulls so it doesn’t matter. That’s not gonna attract any players. NTE rocks with its no 50/50.

That doesn’t matter much cause it depends how many pulls we will be getting each patch, yeah it can be lower ammount of pulls on paper but we might be getting a lot less pulls in game

Without knowing the whole monetization structure, it is too early to celebrate. I personally am still skeptical.

Gacha sounds nice on paper, but if you get 20 pulls/patch as unpaid benefits then it’s horrible. It really hinges on how generous the free summon mats economy is.

Now anounce global ffs

When global release?

Actually so fucking huge, the gacha system seems so much better than basically everything else I have played, NTE being the only exception since you basically dont have to pull for a weapon in that game, but this system sounds amazing.

Glad the recent news has all been pretty damn positive, was already looking forward to the game, and I am PRAYING global releases soon after everything else, since I would prefer not to have my permanent account be locked above 100 ping.

Huh they changed? Ok perfect game now i guess

I am scared that it might be a bad one like Endfield

No 50/50 should be the standard for future gacha games am glad AP is doing it WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK!!!