CBT3現在の中国コミュニティの現状【海外の反応】

中文社区涉及一个游戏可以创建很多个社区，有的社区虽然使用这个游戏的名字，但是是反对这个游戏的人群组成的社区。比如我发的这张图，蓝色星原旅谣是正统社区，头像是阿比，蓝色星原旅遥是反对社区，头像是夏儿。中文有形状相近读音也相近的字，可以以假乱真。

关于CBT3的浪漫元素和粉丝福利，之前在CBT2中，玩家反馈角色的好感度剧情太过敷衍，感情太过平淡，所以CBT3中所有角色的好感度剧情都已经回炉重做，现在CBT3只有一个阿比的支线剧情还遗留在游戏里。所以CBT3的内容无法判断浪漫元素的多和少。现在这个游戏粉丝福利主要靠睡衣皮肤和宿舍互动，但比如米砂等角色的初始模型已经有了很高的福利水平。

最后是关于剧情里NTR元素的指控，中国社区对于角色的贞洁要求度是最高的，一旦有角色涉及到非主角的配对问题，中文社区的节奏爆发非常迅速的，参考的案例就是少女前线2的内测剧情，导致少女前线2开服停止更新半年的剧情来重置内容。如果中文社区没有大规模爆发NTR剧情指控，那基本不存在NTR元素。

现在CBT3中文社区的负面反馈主要集中在游戏系统，付费模式和性能优化上。

我用中文发帖是为了表达我是中文社区的人，也对中文社区更加了解。

I love China #1

Thank you for going out of your way to post here and refuting liars like reddi_4ch2

Are all of reddi_4ch2 recent posts from the AP opposing group and are fake ?
(Genuinely asking)

he uses AI to summarize just about every “review” he makes, and we all know AI is prone to errors.
when he isnt doing this he is making posts saying the game is *censored*.

So basically, he did not do any source validation and just use AI to translate any “review” he found.
What about Fit_Piano_3642 ?

Fit_Piano_364 seems to be a bit more credible, he doesn’t make long ass AI slop posts and he seems to have played CBT3 himself.

That makes me think he’s deliberately getting his information from the anti groups and/or the AI he uses gives them higher weight (because they are usually louder)

that is very likely, I havent looked into the anti’s forum page myself but i can imagine they have similar talking points to the 4chan guy

I was posting a comment on how i will still play this game even with all the flaw, (what game doesnt have flaw these days) and he literally told me to stop coping. Basically an extremely negative and combative person

I have seen a similar guy who used to frequent the r/azurelane sub before he deleted his account (allegedly because of the snowbreak shut down)
He used to complain/doompost about the game having too much fanservice whenever there is a new character is announced leading a lot of people to also be unreasonably toxic in the comments, much like what is happening here.
they both have very similar intentions if not the exact same person.

Until the chinese community pressures these developers to stop implementing a completely useless and annoying female main character, nothing will change. When they can finally understand that they only need a male main character, they will automatically implement everything else correctly. We are dying for games with true romantic interactions that are truly only catering to us straight men. We do not want to share our products and fanbases with outsiders because everything always gets worse when we have to share with them. Their needs to be an equal hatred of ntr and yuri within the chinese community. If you guys keep being lenient towards yuri trash, then begging these devs for anything else is a waste of time. Tldr: Number 1 problem is always female main character.

Edit: yuritards already with the downvotes

Don’t worry bro. I’m with you

My personal opinion is that you are taking out the subversiveness of an extreme minority against a very large group of people who share virtually the same beliefs as you except they just want to play as a girl MC instead. It isn’t my fault that regulators in china have implemented regulations on certain female to female interactions, I don’t think anyone genuinely interested in this type of game and wants to play female MC is happy about those regulations either. Constantly creating additional purity tests won’t accomplish anything except reduce the amount of people overall that agree with you though.

Someone that wants to play a female main character is diametrically opposed to someone who wants to treat a game with an all female cast as a harem game. As is obvious, the genre in and of itself is and always will be based around females surrounding a male main character. And if the writing of the females suffer due to the existence of the female main character, then that’s very unfortunate.

I’ll give an example, Astrae Oratio has this character in it. She’s an extremely haughty, arrogant and appears to be very full of herself but she has the skills to back it up. In almost every context she’s very confident in her abilities both in and out combat. But there’s just one thing… she has a crippling case of **Androphobia (a overwhelming fear of men).** She becomes a nervous wreck the moment she’s even in the vicinity of the MC, creating this extremely cute but engaging contrast between both ways she’s presented. I’ve literally never seen a developer include this as a character trait in a character before but it’s so good that I can guarantee she’ll be the most popular character in the game just based off of this.

https://reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fvbw8d30j2ksh1.png%3Fwidth%3D1920%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Ddd039eab6c92ce294f68bb08aa3bfc38ec9c5701

It should be clear how obvious this type of character cannot work in a game where you have a choice of two genders, this is what people talk about when they say the limitations dual gender MCs impose on character writing. Of course, you could just say it’s not a harem game and that would be the end of it.

I’ll make a bold proclamation, this game will end up in the same situation as Endfield where the game may be making money but the actual profitability of it compared to its predecessor will have a huge disparity between the two games.

Yeah, if the game similar to other popular gacha games which have both male and female playable characters, then it’s fine at some degree. But if you make a game that only have female playable characters, then what the point of female mc? Either a game talk about friendship, family friendly game, or a fanservice harem romance bait. Look at how Azur Promilia hasn’t been showing, it’s quite obvious which it is

You can write different interactions like they did in Uma Musume, though I guess usually I encounter that character archetype more in eroge than gacha games. Also I will be giving Astrae Oratio a try so I’ll keep an eye out for her.

Even as a harem game, it can very easily work, sure you will need a few rewrites in some scenarios, but that level of customization would actually be worth it, because there are actually enough people who want that other main character. The real issue is regulations and that the base script is ruined because of those regulations. I know NTE is a mixed game but its pretty clear that they are focusing on female characters, as well as getting away with plenty of stuff that is quite suggestive with those female characters regardless if you use a female MC or male in some interactions so I’d rather see China back off of game sanitization than more options be removed.

I do really have high hopes for Azur Promilia, and I think from everything I’ve seen they have done a decent job. Stuff like the dorm interactions showcased and character outfits look very good to me, and the actual progression system is quite a bit more interesting than basically any of the other open world gachas currently available. I think maybe originally the game was not intending for a harem route at all, but I do think it has shifted towards that regardless and I really think there is a lot of dooming about so many things that feel a lot better than almost all of its competitors so it really confuses me.

The character I just brought up is a character that can literally ONLY work with the presumption that the main character is a male. You can’t make it easily work because her character trait doesn’t work with another gender. Anything else and you’d essentially be writing a different character. And this is with a completely unregulated writer, because a lack of regulations would still not let a writer be able to write a character like that in a dual-mc game.

When it comes to AP itself, I can’t see a situation where it doesn’t end up as another Stella Sora. Anyone here who has played that would know what I mean

Stella Sora’s problem that I remember was just that the gameplay itself sucked after the only thing to do was spam emblem rerolls, jerk off to the home page and log out. Dating system was also garbage and probably made with AI.

Also, I just explained that you can write different scenarios like in Uma Musume for that kind of character, you don’t have to change the character at all, its just a different scenario? She would obviously be more friendly to the female MC up front. I think you are over complicating things .

theres a reason why these games tend to not have different interactions with characters depending on your selected gender. players dont like feeling cheated or like theyve lost out on certain interactions if theyve chosen a particular gender. this is especially the case in gacha games where players spend money to roll for the character in question. what this then incentivizes is having safe, if not generic interactions at a baseline that may but often dont get extra touch-ups depending on the gender of the character youve chosen

stella sora’s problems have more to do with a tedious core gameplay loop and poor marketing, but people have a point when they say the presence of a dual gender mc impacts how far they can take interactions and intimacy with the female cast. you need only look at the new star guild itself, the main trio of iris, amber, and noya now with the tyrant joining in. you would expect a male tyrant bumming it up in a van with 3 other girls to have a rather different dynamic from a female tyrant doing the same thing, but what happens? the two are treated the same. so the usual tropes that would follow such a setting in say, a harem romcom, arent a thing at all. the male tyrant sharing the same, rather closed-in living space as 3 other girls is treated like something nondescript, because that would be exactly how it is in the female tyrant’s case

you can see something similar with genshin, where in the 5.4 event featuring our mc entering an *onsen* with a bunch of female characters. said characters dont react at all to the male mc being in an onsen with them because… it wouldnt be out-of-place for someone like the female mc to be in the same space

The insecurities of both KR and CN communities and them lashing back at the devs if demands are not met never ceases to not be funny to me

is it any different in the west? change ntr and males for ugly women, DEI or modern politics and nothing changed

I’d rather have anti NTR drama or characters purity drama than DEI politics or ugly characters any time of the day, since you know what they say, cuteness is justice or in this case, its showing loyalty to the one that will actually play.

I don’t think that’s “problematic” as long as we are all capable of making our own decisions I think it’s fine for people to demand what they want, even if the majority doesn’t agree with them.
Of course lying to get others to agree with them is a different thing.

“Therefore, it’s impossible to judge the amount of romantic elements in CBT3.” Isn’t there an entire main storyline already implemented in the game that’ll be there in the full release? As far as I can see there’s nothing in it that’s beyond things already in previous big gachas.

Apparently they reworked all the affinity content and only Abby hasn’t been changed, I haven’t seen an extensive documentation of the new content yet

No, chapter 1 story kinda ends abruptly in the final part, and chapter 1 was still in Charlulu village while Fleece is also gonna be part of the release but still hasn’t shown the story at all.

Thank you!

Thank you for the effort

the 5 ghost behind azurr promilia

why not english, making me translate shit myself, jeez

maybe CN taking over this sub if the game won’t be released in EN