CBT3のガチャの確率が判明！？←まあ悪くないかな【海外の反応】

Also, take this bit of information with a huge grain of salt.

Based on their wording, although you are guaranteed to get the rate-up character within 90 pulls, you might still be able to get a non-rate-up SSR before hitting 90 pulls if you’re lucky.

Is it a 50/50? No. You still keep your pity if you get a non-rate-up SSR character.

For example, in Xiaoyu’s banner, you’re trying to pull for her. At 50 pulls, you get an SSR but it’s Ruby instead. You get to keep Ruby and the 50-pull pity you’ve accumulated so far. You just need to pull 40 more times to get the guaranteed rate-up SSR.

Again, huge grain of salt. This is just speculation based on the wording they posted yesterday.

I mean, the way you describe it, it’s kinda a 50/50.

When people think of “No 50/50” they imagine than when they drop a SSR on the Rate Up, it’s 100% the Rate Up, not 50% chance.

In this case, it’s just a guaranteed pity system.

If your speculation is right of course.

Edit: Nevermind, I didn’t understand how Hoyo gacha works or what the common understanding of “no 50/50” is. Comment stays for shame/global education.

When I personally hear the words no 50/50, all that means to me is that the character is guaranteed within a certain amount of pulls, which is what this sounds like.

The Hoyo 50/50 special for instance allows you to consistently get other ssr characters rather than the one you want, while this gacha limits that to at most 90 pulls and doesn’t reset pity if you get lucky before.

Its pedantic, and I get what you mean, not to mention still predatory gacha, but it’s better than Hoyo I guess.

That’s why I don’t really like the term “50/50” because there are people using it to describe a litteral no 50% and the Hoyo System, which are two different things.

Nobody call Stella Sora a no 50/50 gacha for example, despite it having not one but two 100% pity system.

Meanwhile NTE is a real no 50/50 gacha since if you drop a SSR character on Rate Up, it’s 100% the rate up.

Mmm, I see your meaning. My only experience with gacha is a limited run with ZZZ, so I understand why “no 50/50” could be misleading here.

no its not. this is sounding to be ae/sp gacha, where you could get multiple 5 stars before pity, and have all of them not be rate up before 90. meanwhile if you get a double in hoyo games in one multi you will definitely have the character.

Ah, I did not know. Thanks for the correction.

I don’t know why people use 50/50 to refer anything other than the “pity system”, because a 50/50 rate split is far more common than people think(NIKKE also has a 50/50 base rate split on normal banners with 2% for the rate up and 2% for any other Gold Rarity).

I guess it’s the difference between being technically and practically correct.

If we look at it at a different angle, it is similar to 50/50 but the guarantee count is half off

If we talk about “50/50” as the Hoyo System, then another big difference is that we can fail the 50/50 multiple time before reaching pity.

I thought about it again, isn’t this just basically the old spark system? But instead of building for spark you build for pity, and for this game it’s 90, with soft pity as a bonus

I got caught off guard by everyone saying 50/50


Edit: Nevermind, I’m r*tarded, I forgot spark lets you keep the spark count if you get the rate-up early, but specifically in this game you can’t

usually when ppl describe 50/50 its for the pity drop, so if this system gave u a non rate up at 90 rolls then its a 50/50 system, this one is guarantee or spark cuz u will get rate up regardless at 90 rolls n others along that 90 rolls, but now question is, does the system mention anything about carry over

very good question, if it doesn’t carry over there will never be a reason to roll without being ready to hit the pity it’s always going to be a risky waste

It does carry over

that very big, cheers

If it has the same rules as hoyo’s but without 50:50, it is more generous. Not saying better yet since I’m still skeptical because they can lock important kit or QoL in the dupes.

What is CR? Wep gacha?

I think the Soulessence banner is basically the Anima (weapon) gacha, and CR stands for Cumulative Rate (the overall average drop rate including the soft pity effect). Correct me if I’m wrong, though!

BR is “Base Rate” aka the number that is the base rate for the pull

CR is “Cumulative Rate” aka how high the rate is when including every increase of Soft pity and guarantee.

At least that’s my assumption.

this being from the beta aside the odds for 5’s hardly matter, they are guaranteed when you hit pity so it’s a matter of how many rolls you need vs how many rolls they give you over time vs how many characters you’ll want to roll

that actually determines if you’ll get who you want without whaling

the trickiest part and what we should worry about are the 4 stars because with no sort of pity or way to choose those those it actually ends up to luck and it can get very ugly, no amount of rolls, saving, planning or whaling can help when it comes to pure luck and a rate up usually has 3 4 stars competing

still not sure how we’ll get standard banner 5’s without a 50/50 loss besides the standard banner itself and some games have dual currencies with a free dedicated standard banner only currency that is easier to grind in-game so perhaps AP will go that route

So there’s a chance to get Abby, Luruka and Peipei from limited banner, gotcha

This is really bad, I knew it wouldn’t be like Azur Lane rates but jeezuz that’s low. Unless the pull currency is plentiful, I don’t see this being good in the long run. At least 3% for SSR would be better.

Hopefully the dailies are quick. I’m hoping that the monthly pass + dailies will get me one pull per day

What the hell does mean BR and CR ?

BR = Base Rate, which is the actual rates before you hit soft pity

CR = Cumulative Rate, the estimated “actual” rate when you take in account soft pity. I personally don’t care about this number

These rates seem relatively average overall. The only thing that makes them a bit better is that there seems to be no pity breaking and theres no 50/50

you do a pull, you get a 5 star, is there a chance it’s not rate up? if yes then that is a 50/50 (or 75/25 or any other possible variation).

a guarantee in 90 is just that, a guarantee. by that logic hoyo games also have “no 50/50s” at 180 which is their guarantee.

the feeling is still the same, getting a double or even three 5 stars before 90 and having the possibility that all of them to not be the rate up you wnated will still leave you feeling like shit.

this is not “no 50/50” this is literally endfield/sp gacha which has a guarantee

(this is just my objective analysis and not personal opinion)

what would make this better and not an endfield/sp gacha clone is that if you lose to a non rate up character once, your next 5 star is guaranteed to be 100% the rate up, making doubles or multiple 5* before pity safe.

Wtf bro. You have 5 star in 90 max wishes. If you loose 50/50, you have next guarantee. That is fkin 50/50. What the fuck is “with that logic there is no 50/50”?.

So is it like Umamusume and other Cygames stuff where the rate up SSR and permanent SSRs are all on the banner but the rate up has the 0.8% rate while the rest is at like 0.1% each? Or is it like Endfield where the 0.8% is the collective rate of all SSRs, and the rate up is half of that (which is kind of a 50/50), and the pity only resets if you actually get the rate up?