CBT3のガチャが判明！？←○○なしとか神すぎる！【海外の反応】

1. Xiaoyu Pick up Banner – Guaranteed after 90 pulls, After 70 pulls rate up

2. Xiaoyu’s Anima (weapon) Banner – Guaranteed after 80 pulls, After 60 pulls rate up

3. Starter Banner – 20% discount for each 10 pull. 30 Pulls guranteed a standard character. Afterwards banner will disappear

4. Standard Character Banner – Guaranteed 5 Star after 90 pulls, After 70 pulls rate up. First 50 pulls guaranteed a character of your choice (once only).

5. Standard Anima Banner – Guaranteed after 80 pulls, After 60 pulls rate up

Peak no 50/50

Feels likes its becoming the standard for new gacha games, I hope its enough for this game to avoid the mongil or star savior fate.

to be fair, mongil is just not that good it had some good parts but everything else is just undercook. star savior is also just slop and outdate with hub type gameplay.

Promillia probably won’t break top ten but it will have niche players considering we don’t really have this gooner type 3d OPEN world yet. From CBT, they seem to really polish a lot of things and the combats + mini combats pokemon type look really fun.

And no 50/50 is just great. It means we can probably get at least 1 char every patch.

this. nte and azur are my go to gacha for the forseeing future.

No 50/50 is nice, but if FP2 summon mats is like 60 rolls/Patch it’s gona be sucky.

60 is completely reasonable with 80 guaranteed. In other games, you get 60 and 50/50

Not sure where you think that’s reasonable, but in genshin you usally can get a full 5 star worth of rolls a patch at worst as F2P and HSR just gives you a bunch of freebies because it’s a shitshow and you have to roll for eidolons so I guess it’s not the best example.

Even FGO generally gave you enough between major releases to reliably get a 5 star unless you got extremely unlucky.

Looking at other Majuu game Azur Lane, it’s also quite generous and you can usually farm enough cubes and coins to roll for the new girls.

Not giving you enough to roll is pretty much just paywalling.

My dude in genshin sometimes you get 50 pulls per patch with 180 guaranteed.
What freebies you get in hsr? 2 characters in 4 years lmao?

Do not make shit up

Also don’t compare png idle game with fully 3d open world

Which patch did ever give only 50 pulls lol
You get ~30 just by doing dailies and logging in the web interface.
You get 600 (Almost 5 rolls) for program and patch release, 5 free to buy/month and almost 10 from every endgame. Of which there are 3.

And we haven’t even touched events and potential exploration.

50 is literally impossible if you just do the bare minimum let alone a full patch.

And after 75 pulls it’s increasingly likely you get a 5 star so havint to go to 180 is bad luck enough to win a negative lottery. In 6 years of playing genshin I never had to go to 180.

Have you ever actually played Genshin or just shitposting?

3.2 – 51
5.7 – 57
5.6 – 58
6.2 – 62
6.6 – 60

this is just quick search and look for “primogem count” on leaks subreddit
genshin never ever gave you enough pulls to guarantee a character, and sometimes they release two per patch

You do know those are based on the absolute minimum preliminary counts and conservative estimates and never actually factor in a bunch things, right?
The actual count is always quite a bit more.

Like, I have 30k (Let’s say 27K without the welkin) primos atm when i basically went to 0 on Sandrone. I Buy no BP. I don’t ever buy gems.

\> never actually factor in a bunch things

any examples?

also 10 from every endgame? is this a trolling or you actually stupid? you get 600 gems every abyss reset. I legit think you’re trolling. even with double abyss per patch its 1200

nah im done, im not dealing with it anymore

Actually, currently every month from endgame you get 1800, so around 11 pulls. And also HSR only gave out 2 free characters in 4 years? That cant be right surely.

I also dont think you play hoyo games right now, since you dont have those knowledge. I am not defending the other person or those genshin’s low pulls income, but you need to get your facts straight before using them as arguments. I can see you just want to win in arguments by slandering other games you dont even play, or have enough knowledge of.

How 600+600 adds up to 1600?its been 
said from every endgame every month, not just every month

I’m not playing the games? Do you want to see some screenshots from my account, what proof do you want to see? 

I started playing genshin in the end of december 2022, and I have 1327 days active if you can believe hoyolab, is this good enough? this counts as “playing the game” btw ? Just checking

30 by doing dailies? is this a joke? dailies give you 60 gems, you get 1 pull from dailies every 3 days

Bro you are the one making shit up lol.

Now admittedly I stopped playing those 2 shitass hoyo games, so I’m totally not up to date. But a quick look at Genshin Bookkeeping it’s definitely not 50 per patch.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l9HPu2cAzTckdXtr7u-7D8NSKzZNUqOuvbmxERFZ_6w/edit?gid=955728278#gid=955728278

And at the same time, HSR actually gave more free characters than just 2. Dr Ratio, Archer, Gilgamesh, and 2 limited selectors in 4.0 and 4.2. Yes, you can argue because HSR’s powercreep is the fucking worst, but who knows Promilia will follow the same footsteps as HSR? (very unlikely but it’s a gacha game at the end of the day and you shouldn’t be surprised if they do that)

If you want to use the “You can’t compare 3D gacha with 2D gacha” argument, look at NTE then. Promilia’s gacha system is similar to NTE’s (no 50/50, 80 hard pity). Based on these sources I can confidently say they give out close to 80 limited pulls per patch, enough for 1 character per patch:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NevernessToEverness/comments/1vpgfyw/version_13_resources_count/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NevernessToEverness/comments/1unjvxr/version_12_resources_count/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NevernessToEverness/comments/1tqvcbk/version_11_resources_count/

Anyways that’s not the point here.

**Is it not wrong to demand atleast a decent pull economy from devs?**

I said sometimes gives 50, even in this dock you can see <60, what is wrong with you.

Nte gives 80, nothing to do with what I said how 60 is reasonable.


Stfu already

Why do you have to emphasize on “sometimes”? Does that “sometimes” makes you think Genshin will only give that much pulls per patch overall?

I compared it with NTE not because of what you said, I just put that as an example of good pull economy. 80 pulls per patch.

Do you think azur promilia always will give exactly 60 pulls? Yes I have to emphasize on sometimes, because thats exactly what I meant.
does anyone think 80 isnt good pull economy? What are you trying to say I dont understand. NO ONE knows how many pulls AP will have on release, maybe you missed the start of this conversation but 60 is a completely made up number just so you know.

Genshin might give <60 on shit patches but you shouldn’t throw away the fact sometimes they give more than that too.

>What are you trying to say I dont understand.

Admittedly I may have misunderstood and assumed a lot of info from parts of this whole comment block, so I admit most of this is from my shortcomings. I apologize for that.

My main point is that Promilia should give good pull economy, and us players should demand a decent pull economy from devs. From what Exkirion said

>if FP2 summon mats is like 60 rolls/Patch it’s gona be sucky

this means you get less than 1 limited character/patch if you hit soft pity all the time. It sucks.

60 soft pity in AP which means it will be average 70, Also lets assume they gonna give double on release, thats how usually it goes. Even if you hit pity, you left with 60 pulls, its a guarantee for next 3 banners to get characters.

I just dont understand how even 80 in genshin is good enough for some people, with 180 guaranteed. You lose 50\\50 its like 75-90 pulls wasted completely. But 60\\80 every patch, if you miss character because you didnt get 10 more pulls that patch, you a basically guaranteed character for the next 3 banners.

Id rather get limited characters 2\\3 patches, than getting some garbage standard character or weapon I dont want every patch. Idk how you feel, but I prefer to 100% get what i pulled, not 50% chance to get something.

genshin give out around 600-700+ pulls every year for f2p…which is like around 70 pulls avg per patch.

BUT it is mostly backload….so it’s that great.

genshin give like 60-70 max for f2p. and the rate is 0.6% with 50/50….

It’s not the end of the world as genshin don’t do double banners most patches, but it’s still stingy as hell as most pulls are also backload to exploration, quests and such. They don’t even give out free 10 rolls upfront like most games too.

It should be obvious if you have played any other gacha but don’t expect you can get every character as F2P. Just save for your favorites and should be good.

i mean, with monthly pass, which probably give you another 30 pulls every patch, it’s pretty reasonable. you can guarantee to get 1 char or 2 if you get early pulls.

Does someone has the full list of charaters in beginner and standard banners ?